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Post by kiwikid34 on Jun 11, 2009 15:00:50 GMT 1
I have hunted high and low but cannot find any pre-war British or other championship results except for one in 1937. It was the European Championship in Rotterdam which was won by Walter Mackerth. Just a line to that effect in one of the chapters, nothing else.
EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP
1937 - Rotterdam, Holland - Walter Mackereth (England).
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Post by administrator on Jun 11, 2009 20:51:19 GMT 1
EUROPEAN MIDGET CAR CHAMPIONSHIP
1936 - Walter Mackereth
(FOLLOWING EVENTS UNDER GPMC SANCTION)::
1971 - Paul Emery
1972 - Paul Emery
1973 - Rod Tanswell
1974 - Frank Boyles
1975 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1976 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1977 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1978 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1979 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1980 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1981 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1982 - Hank Hansen (Holland)
1983 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1984 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1985 - Mick Bonner
1986 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1987 - Basil Craske
1988 - Henk Hansen (Holland)
1989 - Basil Craske
1990 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1991 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany)
1992 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany)
1993 - Harry Sayell
1994 - Toni Scheepens (Holland)
1994 - Toni Scheepens
1995 - Harry Sayell
1996 - Harry Sayell
1997 - Harry Sayell
1998 - Harry Sayell
1999 - Stuart Haynes
2000 - Rob Sayell
2001 - Rob Sayell
2002 - Andy Collins
2003 - Daz Ryecroft
2004 - Alan Buckland
2005 - Aan Buckland
2006 - Alan Buckland
2007 - Jason Carnwell
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Post by tobyhalter on Jun 11, 2009 23:50:46 GMT 1
What validity can we place on the 1937 European Championship won by Walter Mackereth Where does the fact come from? Was there midget car racing in Holland in the mid-1930s. It's no good putting names to championships possibly on just an old memory.
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Post by kiwikid34 on Jul 8, 2010 7:33:33 GMT 1
European Championship, Birmingham, June 16 2010, result was -
1st J.Pooley 2nd D.Pooley 3rd P.Retchless 4th K.Kilianski 5th C.Bunn 6th S.Dawson 7th M.de Land 8th A.Herbert
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Post by kiwikid34 on Dec 5, 2010 16:15:46 GMT 1
EUROPEAN MIDGET CAR CHAMPIONSHIP1937 - Walter Mackereth (FOLLOWING EVENTS UNDER GPMC SANCTION)::1971 - Paul Emery 1972 - Paul Emery 1973 - Rod Tanswell 1974 - Frank Boyles 1975 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1976 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1977 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1978 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1979 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1980 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1981 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1982 - Hank Hansen (Holland) 1983 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1984 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1985 - Mick Bonner 1986 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1987 - Basil Craske 1988 - Henk Hansen (Holland) 1989 - Basil Craske 1990 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1991 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany) 1992 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany) 1993 - Harry Sayell 1994 - Toni Scheepens (Holland) 1994 - Toni Scheepens 1995 - Harry Sayell 1996 - Harry Sayell 1997 - Harry Sayell 1998 - Harry Sayell 1999 - Stuart Haynes 2000 - Rob Sayell 2001 - Rob Sayell 2002 - Andy Collins 2003 - Daz Ryecroft 2004 - Alan Buckland 2005 - Aan Buckland 2006 - Alan Buckland 2007 - Jason Carnwell This needs an update as do most of the other championships for various countries on the group. |
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Post by weewillie on Apr 10, 2012 8:18:34 GMT 1
What validity can we place on the 1937 European Championship won by Walter Mackereth Where does the fact come from? Was there midget car racing in Holland in the mid-1930s. It's no good putting names to championships possibly on just an old memory. In the site's list of European champions, the 1937 Rotterdam meeting is obviously recognised. The amazing thing is that after several years no member has yet come forward with proof that the event ever took place? It must surely have been publicised somewhere - maybe in a programme for that year. What other drivers took part? That's if it ever took place. |
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Post by derek on Apr 11, 2012 10:54:33 GMT 1
You are looking at the wrong year, the Rotterdam meeting took place in late 1936.
Somewhere the results of this meeting can be found on the web. I'm sorry but I can't remember where! I think it was on the histotic Autosport forum.
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Post by weewillie on Apr 12, 2012 8:00:04 GMT 1
You are looking at the wrong year, the Rotterdam meeting took place in late 1936. Somewhere the results of this meeting can be found on the web. I'm sorry but I can't remember where! I think it was on the histotic Autosport forum. I have been "doing a google" so to speak to find the actual reference as mentioned by Derek without any luck. Is there a more experienced member who knows where the meeting results can be found. And has the site administrator made the correction in regard to the result, which I think is crucial. |
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Post by administrator on Apr 12, 2012 20:04:10 GMT 1
You are looking at the wrong year, the Rotterdam meeting took place in late 1936. Somewhere the results of this meeting can be found on the web. I'm sorry but I can't remember where! I think it was on the histotic Autosport forum. In the main list of championship winners I have corrected Walter Mackerth's success from 1937 to 1936. Thank you Derek for the correction. |
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Post by youtubefiend on Apr 12, 2012 23:36:17 GMT 1
You are looking at the wrong year, the Rotterdam meeting took place in late 1936. Somewhere the results of this meeting can be found on the web. I'm sorry but I can't remember where! I think it was on the histotic Autosport forum. I have been "doing a google" so to speak to find the actual reference as mentioned by Derek without any luck. Is there a more experienced member who knows where the meeting results can be found. And has the site administrator made the correction in regard to the result, which I think is crucial. I have tried to get to this mentioned link but despite a lot of shuffling around for sites have not been able to find the site. |
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Post by toadys on Jul 15, 2018 19:44:28 GMT 1
EUROPEAN MIDGET CAR CHAMPIONSHIP1936 - Walter Mackereth (FOLLOWING EVENTS UNDER GPMC SANCTION)::1971 - Paul Emery 1972 - Paul Emery 1973 - Rod Tanswell 1974 - Frank Boyles 1975 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1976 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1977 - Peter Loff (Germany) 1978 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1979 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1980 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1981 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1982 - Hank Hansen (Holland) 1983 - Jan van Rengs (Holland) 1984 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1985 - Mick Bonner 1986 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1987 - Basil Craske 1988 - Henk Hansen (Holland) 1989 - Basil Craske 1990 - Jan Schraets (Holland) 1991 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany) 1992 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany) 1993 - Harry Sayell 1994 - Toni Scheepens (Holland) 1994 - Toni Scheepens 1995 - Harry Sayell 1996 - Harry Sayell 1997 - Harry Sayell 1998 - Harry Sayell 1999 - Stuart Haynes 2000 - Rob Sayell 2001 - Rob Sayell 2002 - Andy Collins 2003 - Daz Ryecroft 2004 - Alan Buckland 2005 - Aan Buckland 2006 - Alan Buckland 2007 - Jason Carnwell It's 11 years since there appears to have been an update to this list of European champions. All I can comment is a very large HELP!!!! |
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Post by ovaltrack on Jul 16, 2018 10:25:16 GMT 1
2008 - Hednesford - Jason Carnwell
2009 - Buxton - Daniel Pooley
2010 - Birmingham - Jonathan Pooley
2011 - Arena - Jonathan Pooley
2012 - Northampton - Gordon Pooley
2013 - Northampton - Jonathan Pooley
2014 - Lochgelly - Daniel Pooley
2015 - Posterholt - Jonathan Pooley
2016 - Posterholt - David Bonser
2017 - Posterholt - David Bonser
2018 - Hednesford - Jonathan Pooley
Hope that helps - also showing the venue gives a little extra perspective.
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Post by ovaltrack on Jul 16, 2018 11:20:48 GMT 1
You are looking at the wrong year, the Rotterdam meeting took place in late 1936. Somewhere the results of this meeting can be found on the web. I'm sorry but I can't remember where! I think it was on the histotic Autosport forum. I have been "doing a google" so to speak to find the actual reference as mentioned by Derek without any luck. Is there a more experienced member who knows where the meeting results can be found. And has the site administrator made the correction in regard to the result, which I think is crucial. The attached cutting refers to Rotterdam but the writing, about Val Atkinson, says that he "joined up with Harry Skirrow three years ago (the article was 1938) and accompanied Skirrow and Walter Mackereth to Rotterdam where the two Northerners smashed all records." It's not definitively saying that the Rotterdam meeting was three years prior to the article but it does at least offer some anecdotal reference in print. It's from the Midland Daily Telegraph in July 1938. Attachments:
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Post by administrator on Jul 16, 2018 14:23:29 GMT 1
EUROPEAN MIDGET CAR CHAMPIONSHIP
1936 - Walter Mackereth
(FOLLOWING EVENTS UNDER GPMC SANCTION)::
1971 - Paul Emery
1972 - Paul Emery
1973 - Rod Tanswell
1974 - Frank Boyles
1975 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1976 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1977 - Peter Loff (Germany)
1978 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1979 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1980 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1981 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1982 - Hank Hansen (Holland)
1983 - Jan van Rengs (Holland)
1984 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1985 - Mick Bonner
1986 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1987 - Basil Craske
1988 - Henk Hansen (Holland)
1989 - Basil Craske
1990 - Jan Schraets (Holland)
1991 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany)
1992 - Klaus Kilianski (Germany)
1993 - Harry Sayell
1994 - Toni Scheepens (Holland)
1994 - Toni Scheepens
1995 - Harry Sayell
1996 - Harry Sayell
1997 - Harry Sayell
1998 - Harry Sayell
1999 - Stuart Haynes
2000 - Rob Sayell
2001 - Rob Sayell
2002 - Andy Collins
2003 - Daz Ryecroft
2004 - Alan Buckland
2005 - Aan Buckland
2006 - Alan Buckland
2007 - Jason Carnwell
2008 - Hednesford - Jason Carnwell
2009 - Buxton - Daniel Pooley
2010 - Birmingham - Jonathan Pooley
2011 - Arena - Jonathan Pooley
2012 - Northampton - Gordon Pooley
2013 - Northampton - Jonathan Pooley
2014 - Lochgelly - Daniel Pooley
2015 - Posterholt - Jonathan Pooley
2016 - Posterholt - David Bonser
2017 - Posterholt - David Bonser
2018 - Hednesford - Jonathan Pooley
:::: Thank you ovaltrack for the update.
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Post by administrator on Jul 16, 2018 14:33:41 GMT 1
I have been "doing a google" so to speak to find the actual reference as mentioned by Derek without any luck. Is there a more experienced member who knows where the meeting results can be found. And has the site administrator made the correction in regard to the result, which I think is crucial. The attached cutting refers to Rotterdam but the writing, about Val Atkinson, says that he "joined up with Harry Skirrow three years ago (the article was 1938) and accompanied Skirrow and Walter Mackereth to Rotterdam where the two Northerners smashed all records." It's not definitively saying that the Rotterdam meeting was three years prior to the article but it does at least offer some anecdotal reference in print. It's from the Midland Daily Telegraph in July 1938. |
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