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Post by weewillie on Dec 22, 2009 16:46:32 GMT 1
This is the ex-Dave Hughes Skirrow that was auctioned some years ago and is now owned by Ivan Dutton. He also owns the historic Elto which has been debated elsewhere on this discussion site. Attachments:
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Post by haflinger121 on Dec 22, 2009 17:16:29 GMT 1
willie, while I cannot be 100% positive, I am 99.9% sure that this car is not Ivan's. If you look at the website concerning BSA based car and midgets www.bsafwdc.co.uk/page21.phpyou will see that this is a car previously owned by somebody called Tony Meade. I have been 'up close and personal' with Ivan's car when it was in the auction that he bought it from, and it was in far too good a condition to be the basket case shown here. What's more, Ivan's car had not been recently restored either; it was in good nick, but had been that way for many years by the look of it. I wouldn't mind knowing what did happen to the Meade car eventually though...
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Post by rodpashley on Dec 22, 2009 19:52:54 GMT 1
that particular photo shows a Skirrow that some one was trying to fit a second motor at the back, if I dig long enough in my boxes, I think I can find alittle more about it. Ivans Skirrow, I saw that car about thirty somthing years ago, it belonged to a farmer cum scrap dealer, who had bought all the Dave Hughes cars as scap, and kept one that looked better than the others. and the rest were properly "scrapped". He had no idea what he had got, and thought they were some kind of fairground ride, and had it restored for his seven year old son to play with. Fortunately he learned what it was in good time, and the car languished in a "barn", accompanied by lots of other Old vehicles that he took a fancy to.At that point, the car had been restored, and the engine restored but not fired up. A few people tried to buy it off him, but he couldn't be perswaded to sell.
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Post by weewillie on Dec 22, 2009 19:53:09 GMT 1
willie, while I cannot be 100% positive, I am 99.9% sure that this car is not Ivan's. If you look at the website concerning BSA based car and midgets www.bsafwdc.co.uk/page21.phpyou will see that this is a car previously owned by somebody called Tony Meade. I have been 'up close and personal' with Ivan's car when it was in the auction that he bought it from, and it was in far too good a condition to be the basket case shown here. What's more, Ivan's car had not been recently restored either; it was in good nick, but had been that way for many years by the look of it. I wouldn't mind knowing what did happen to the Meade car eventually though... I have looked at the site and agree this must be the Tony Meade Skirrow. As you ask, what did happen to the Meade car eventually.
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Post by weewillie on Dec 22, 2009 19:55:50 GMT 1
that particular photo shows a Skirrow that some one was trying to fit a second motor at the back, if I dig long enough in my boxes, I think I can find alittle more about it. Ivans Skirrow, I saw that car about thirty somthing years ago, it belonged to a farmer cum scrap dealer, who had bought all the Dave Hughes cars as scap, and kept one that looked better than the others. and the rest were properly "scrapped". He had no idea what he had got, and thought they were some kind of fairground ride, and had it restored for his seven year old son to play with. Fortunately he learned what it was in good time, and the car languished in a "barn", accompanied by lots of other Old vehicles that he took a fancy to.At that point, the car had been restored, and the engine restored but not fired up. A few people tried to buy it off him, but he couldn't be perswaded to sell. It would be nice if we could see a photo of the Ivan Dutton-ex Dave Hughes Skirrow. There was one around when the car went to auction where Ivan Dutton bought it.
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Post by weewillie on Dec 22, 2009 20:06:23 GMT 1
I have this on my records and now think this could be the Skirrow that went to auction and was bought by Ivan Dutton. I now wait for the moderator and haflinger to prove me wrong again Attachments:
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Post by haflinger121 on Dec 22, 2009 23:55:37 GMT 1
Prove Willie, no. But this time I'm 99.999 recurring % sure that this is a different car. Why? Because this one is in the USA! Check it out here: www.memaerobilia.com/raceway.asp and scroll right to the bottom of the page. Note that the mis-spelling in the weblink is correct as far as finding the right web site is concerned. Note also, that you will have to tear your eyes away from many other interesting midget pix in order to get down to the Skirrow. Ivan's car looks exactly like you'd expect Dave Hughes' own personal car to look, it's maroon and carrying the number 66.
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Post by haflinger121 on Dec 23, 2009 0:12:42 GMT 1
Unfortunately, I can't cram the Cheffins auction catalogue into the scanner without damaging it, which I have no intention of doing, sorry. So, I've taken a rather bad picture of it instead, and posted it as big as I reckon I can get away with. I still doubt you'll be able to read the copy willie, but the pics of the car might be good enough to show you what it looked like in 2005. Flat tyres aside, it was in pretty good shape, all things considered. (Later) Just tried to read the copy from the website on 'enlarge' and it's come out quite well. Note that our good friend Derek was responsible for the copy - I didn't think anyone working for Cheffins would have known all that and got it right! Attachments:
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Post by tobyhalter on Dec 23, 2009 9:51:54 GMT 1
I have this on my records and now think this could be the Skirrow that went to auction and was bought by Ivan Dutton. I now wait for the moderator and haflinger to prove me wrong again This Skirrow 7 is owned by Barry Brown in Canada. It is the former Les White car and was sold on by his son Malcolm to Joey Gertler in the USA. Barry Brown in Canada, a member of this forum. For many years Les White had the car on display at his car show rooms in Epsom, Surrey. The car has been discussed elsewhere on this group and more photos of it are on the Old Time Speedway Group in its photo section as Skirrow in Canada. That means there are certainly two Skirrows about - this one and the Ivan Dutton car, plus a possible third in regard to the Meads car that was put on here originally.
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Post by haflinger121 on Dec 23, 2009 10:39:24 GMT 1
Yes Toby, that's quite right, thanks for jogging my memory. I knew the 7 car had moved on but it had slipped my mind and, as you say, this is now the "Skirrow in Canada".
I still wonder how many cars in total escaped scrapping and still exist out there in the world, be they in Oz, NZ or just rusting in a barn here somewhere...
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Post by ezwalk43 on Dec 24, 2009 0:52:43 GMT 1
I took numerous close up photos of the Skirrow Ivan bought at the auction but not being a computer expert haven't a clue how to load them on here - Paintwork appeared original and all workmanship was very good. My understanding of the car owned by the recluse with the scrap yard was that this was white/red similar to the "Canadian" car. Also remember photos of a blue or green one from a Brafield show in 1980's?
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