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Post by administrator on Jun 27, 2010 9:09:48 GMT 1
The 2010 Midget Car World Championship is at Northampton on July 25. Any news on the line-up and what non-British drivers will be competing?
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Post by ovaltrack on Jul 4, 2010 10:04:05 GMT 1
I've not heard who will be over for the World Championship but the reigning World Champion Klaus Kilianski was over here last week for the European - he came fourth. The only regular Europeans now are Klaus and the Scheepens father and son due Toni and Richie.
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Post by tobyhalter on Jul 4, 2010 14:23:04 GMT 1
I've not heard who will be over for the World Championship but the reigning World Champion Klaus Kilianski was over here last week for the European - he came fourth. The only regular Europeans now are Klaus and the Scheepens father and son due Toni and Richie. The GPMC must be keeping their fingers crossed that Kilianski and the Scheepens keep racing otherwise there would be no credibility to calling the meeting a world championship.
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Post by ovaltrack on Jul 4, 2010 19:40:49 GMT 1
Well it still has more cred than a lot of other short circuit championships who run World Championships with just English drivers.
I must admit though personally I have always advocated running these events under such titles only if the entry warrants it. I am not officially speaking for the club but I personally wouldn't call the recent European a championship - it's would sit happier with me as a European Challenge event. World Championship should of course have non European drivers taking part. Any 'Championship' tag applying to a single race should at least have some qualifying attached to it. Sadly that has not always been the case on the short ovals.
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Post by 93 on Jul 5, 2010 22:14:36 GMT 1
Hallo Now we stop with Midget racing in UK,there is not fair play in the club. Lots of ill-tempered faces last week in Birmh. After the Europen race no Engine check,after the last three years i have seen no Engine check on the UK Midgets, we must open us engine every time,every win.Thats a lot of cost for us. UK Engine are seal,but we have no can see a seal on the engine. Thats a family club,not the good club of the last 30 years. No one needs to wait for us in Northampton for the W.F
Sorry my English. Josef Kilianski
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Post by administrator on Jul 6, 2010 7:19:08 GMT 1
A world championship without defending champion Klaus Kilianski? That will be ridiculous for the event's credibility especially if, for some reason, the only other non-British drivers the two Scheppens Toni and Richie also give it a miss.
A previous post by Toby Halter seems to be having dire consequences for the championship.
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Post by ezwalk43 on Jul 6, 2010 21:03:23 GMT 1
Believe I've already made my comments clear on another site - my own belief is how can a championship be called "World" when the rules are manipulated against a continental driver ever winning. To my mind if Klaus can come over with a Dastle dating from who knows when (1980? ?) and still win then he deserves all the support that the UK Midget community can give - unfortunately doesn't seem that way. Klaus - unfortunately I'm racing at Sheffield that nite otherwise I'd be there to support you at Northampton
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Post by martinslyon on Jul 7, 2010 20:42:06 GMT 1
All that emotion just because they want to check the size of his engine?
I wonder why?
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Post by 93 on Jul 7, 2010 22:29:06 GMT 1
Why? ?? because it was already 30jahre so, I spent my whole life to the sport I know it otherwise. Why is is checking in for the National Hot-Rod WF engines?, Martinlyon Why ? because it is fair play.
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Post by kiwikid34 on Jul 8, 2010 7:13:58 GMT 1
All that emotion just because they want to check the size of his engine? I wonder why? Isn't the Kilianski gripe because his engine is always measured and that the same interest is not shown in regard to measuring the size of UK drivers car engines? That is, he feels there is just a one-way interest in his?
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Post by haflinger121 on Jul 8, 2010 8:52:52 GMT 1
Kiwikid, without having been at any recent midget championships to know, I would say that is exactly what Klaus is saying. Although his English isn't the best (still better than my German!) I think he is saying that this doesn't happen to him when he has occasionally raced in a National Hot Rod World Final and that 'fair play' is always done there. As one of the officials in charge of seeing that it is, I can categorically state that we would never strip KK's (or anybody else's) engine unless or until he gets a podium finish. Up to that point, we assume everybody's motor is legal wherever they come from. I should have thought it ought to be the same in midgets.
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Post by administrator on Jul 8, 2010 16:32:52 GMT 1
With acknowledgements to the UK MIDGETS site (see our Links for the site's address)::
--- In ukmidgets@yahoogroups.co.uk, ANDREW COLLINS <andycollins2@...> wrote: > > It seems to me the Club are pushing the self destruct button. I cannot believe they are treating overseas entrants in this manner. > Many formulas have a World Championship with 45 cars on the grid and they are all English. The GPMC need to hold on to what they have... or had before it's too late. > The Committe need to do something and fast in my opinion to boost grids; encourage new drivers; stick to the rules when it comes to engine checks (don't start me on that one) and maybe they would have meetings where they didn't have to pay to race! > The Club have lost FAR TOO MANY drivers in the past by inconsistancy and done nothing about replacing them. > I've said my bit now, i will have no more comments on the matter. > Good luck; you will need it. >
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Post by rodpashley on Jul 8, 2010 16:41:44 GMT 1
Klaus' gripe seems to be that while his engine was stripped for a fourth place ( Correct for a GPMC international race), positions 1st, 2nd, and 3rd were not required to have their motors stripped. There is no mention in my copy of the rule book about having sealed motors to avoid capacity checks (there used to be, I think.), and anyway, KK says that there were no seals visible on the first three cars to finish.
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Post by administrator on Jul 8, 2010 18:35:49 GMT 1
With acknowledgements to the UK MIDGETS site (see our Links for the site's address):: --- In ukmidgets@yahoogroups.co.uk, ANDREW COLLINS <andycollins2@...> wrote: > > It seems to me the Club are pushing the self destruct button. I cannot believe they are treating overseas entrants in this manner. > Many formulas have a World Championship with 45 cars on the grid and they are all English. The GPMC need to hold on to what they have... or had before it's too late. > The Committe need to do something and fast in my opinion to boost grids; encourage new drivers; stick to the rules when it comes to engine checks (don't start me on that one) and maybe they would have meetings where they didn't have to pay to race! > The Club have lost FAR TOO MANY drivers in the past by inconsistancy and done nothing about replacing them. > I've said my bit now, i will have no more comments on the matter. > Good luck; you will need it. > Just a note of interest re Andy Collins: he was the 2003 GP Midget Car world champion in, I am certain, a front-engine car. And he was an advocate of midgets racing on dirt/shale from what I remember.
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Post by ezwalk43 on Jul 8, 2010 18:56:45 GMT 1
Andy was indeed the 2003 World Champion in a front engine car and under his chairmanship grew the club to regular grids of 19-20 cars and the opportunity of taking part in numerous events that similar small formula could only dream of - I think I speak for most drivers of the time that we owe Andy gratitude for an amazing 2004 season where we were paid to take part in the Autosport NEC live action arena, were the first small oval formula to be invited to stage oval race demonstrations at Rockingham had an amazing weekend when we were invited to race over at Tipperary and held the first shale midget meeting for many years at Sheffield - back then we regularly tried to entice the continentals over for the big meetings with little success...
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