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Post by weewillie on May 25, 2009 12:29:43 GMT 1
maybe i can help whit the champion list of buenos aires drivers also in arg in other states (provincias) like cordoba or bahia blaca in the souht race since from early 50s The general consensus is for a site dedicated to the UK, for drivers and others who have dome enough to gain recognition for a 'Hall of Fame.' However, that does not preclude this site also establishing a similar 'Hall of Fame' for drivers and others who deserve a place in an Argentina 'Hall of Fame.' As administrator of this site, I will do all I can to help in this direction. A worldwide site is out of the question - Australia, USA and New Zealand already have long-running and viable 'Halls of Fame.' I suggest you get the UK 'Hall of Fame' up and running before worrying about other countries. Just when will all the chatter finish and the hard work begin? A 'Hall of Fame' offers a lot. It would be a pity if the project died virtually at its birth.
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Post by leadfoot on Jun 5, 2009 3:52:46 GMT 1
Hi. My name is Bill Lawler, and reside in Sydney Australia. I have been following midget/speedcar racing since 1958. 46 of those were as pit crew for drivers and car owners. When the Hall of Fame was introduced here, I was honoured to be asked to be on the selection committee, as I am also the vintage midget car historian and statistician, not only for NSW, but am collecting stats. from all around Australia, and America. My imput into your discussion on the HOF is this; It should only be for your country only. To have a world wide HOF, you would need delegates from around the world to chose a likely list, and that would take an enormous task. Not only that, other countries have already established their own. 2; You must also recognise those who have put in many thousands of hours of hard work behind the scenes, e.g; Long serving pit crew, officials, engine builders, car owner, etc. as well as the all-important drivers. 3; Form a committee of knowledgable people that know the sport, i.e; historians, speedway magazine writers, club presidents, etc. 4; DON'T have drivers or ex-drivers on the committee for obvious reasons. 5; And finally, don't do what we do here by keeping the inductees a secret until the night of the induction dinner. No one will turn up! If people know that their hero will be inducted into speedway's HOF, more tickets will be sold. I hope this will help.
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Post by administrator on Jun 5, 2009 8:55:34 GMT 1
Hi. My name is Bill Lawler, and reside in Sydney Australia. I have been following midget/speedcar racing since 1958. 46 of those were as pit crew for drivers and car owners. When the Hall of Fame was introduced here, I was honoured to be asked to be on the selection committee, as I am also the vintage midget car historian and statistician, not only for NSW, but am collecting stats. from all around Australia, and America. My imput into your discussion on the HOF is this; It should only be for your country only. To have a world wide HOF, you would need delegates from around the world to chose a likely list, and that would take an enormous task. Not only that, other countries have already established their own. 2; You must also recognise those who have put in many thousands of hours of hard work behind the scenes, e.g; Long serving pit crew, officials, engine builders, car owner, etc. as well as the all-important drivers. 3; Form a committee of knowledgable people that know the sport, i.e; historians, speedway magazine writers, club presidents, etc. 4; DON'T have drivers or ex-drivers on the committee for obvious reasons. 5; And finally, don't do what we do here by keeping the inductees a secret until the night of the induction dinner. No one will turn up! If people know that their hero will be inducted into speedway's HOF, more tickets will be sold. I hope this will help. An excellent and much respected opinion. The HoF will obviously take time to set up. It is essential that its structure is correctly formulated - foolish for it to start at half-cock. The more ideas the better, but now looking back over the various comments, it does seem that progressively we are getting towards the HoF's establishment. Please keep sending in your views. Thanks.
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Post by weewillie on Jun 7, 2009 21:55:25 GMT 1
How about Walter Mackereth as the first driver to be nominated. Any views on this?
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Post by haflinger121 on Jun 13, 2009 0:17:21 GMT 1
Rod, I sent you a PM at your yahoo address - just wondered if you got it?
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Post by leadfoot on Jun 25, 2009 2:36:14 GMT 1
How about Walter Mackereth as the first driver to be nominated. Any views on this?
As I am not very familiar with your drivers in the UK, I can't quite reply to that Weewillie. What we did here in Australia was recognise those who have achieved outstanding records in midget racing first. Our first inductee was the great Ray Revell, who is recognised as the winningest driver in the country with over 100 career feature race wins to his credit. I don't know Mackereth's records. That is up to your committee when they are formed in which to decide. Myself, I would (if I was on your committee) nominate Jean Reville, Bud Stanley, and Ralph Secretan, as they were the first midget drivers from the UK to travel half way around the world to race in Australia as pioneers representing their country and became recognised as International drivers. That alone must be worth something. Just a thought to get the ball rolling.
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Post by administrator on Jul 3, 2009 13:16:23 GMT 1
Hi leadfoot: You are right in what you replied to weewillie. The 'Hall of Fame' certainly needs to be moved on now from the talking stages. Jean Reville, Bud Stanley and Ralph Secretan are good choices in regard to their 1935-36 Australian tour - very little however achieved as racers in the UK. admin, Midget Car Panorama.
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Post by weewillie on Jul 5, 2009 10:27:36 GMT 1
Hi leadfoot: You are right in what you replied to weewillie. The 'Hall of Fame' certainly needs to be moved on now from thr talking stages. Jean Reville, Bud Stanley and Ralph Secretan are good choices in regard to their 1935-36 Australian tour - very little however achieved as racers in the UK. admin, Midget Car Panorama. I have looked through the chapters section on the site and cannot seem to find anything about these two of these drivers - Bud Stanley and Ralph Secretan. When and where they did they race in England in the early 1930s?
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Post by weewillie on Jul 18, 2009 11:44:21 GMT 1
How far has the introduction of a 'Hall of Fame' gone and exactly who will form any adjudicating committee? ;D
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Post by mybigtoe18 on Aug 1, 2009 21:25:53 GMT 1
I would like to put in a mention for Spike Rhiando. He earned pre-war midgets more publicity than any other - and he had the beating of the legendary Walter Mackereth as well. What's more, he drove his own built car. He sold it in about 1952, I.m not whop to, for just £375, so I read in the Speedway Gazette at the time. It happened after he was refused a team place in the Midland Speedway League. Does anyone know why he was kept out of the league.
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Post by weewillie on Aug 6, 2009 17:13:48 GMT 1
I like the way the New Zealand judging committee is set up with 15 members each serving once over three years in groups of five - then presumably a new rotation for subsequent three year periods. I think though it's going to be a long while before we get down to establishing a committee and maybe those interested in serving on it should come forward - or should it be made up of none members of this form?
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Post by weewillie on Aug 6, 2009 17:15:46 GMT 1
I would like to put in a mention for Spike Rhiando. He earned pre-war midgets more publicity than any other - and he had the beating of the legendary Walter Mackereth as well. What's more, he drove his own built car. He sold it in about 1952, I.m not whop to, for just £375, so I read in the Speedway Gazette at the time. It happened after he was refused a team place in the Midland Speedway League. Does anyone know why he was kept out of the league. Maybe because he was too professional for the league? Who knows after more than 57 years. Who is still around to give an answer.
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Post by youtubefiend on Aug 20, 2009 9:29:30 GMT 1
Has there been any further progress into what looks an excellent idea.
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Post by youtubefiend on Aug 20, 2009 9:32:30 GMT 1
How about Walter Mackereth as the first driver to be nominated. Any views on this? I can live with this nomination of Walter Mackereth. Would Spike Rhiando also qualify - doubts about where he was actually born.
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Post by old75 on Sept 5, 2009 9:14:21 GMT 1
Willie, our HoF in NZ is only open to Kiwi nominees be they drivers, car owners, officials etc. Both bike & car divisions. Just one small correction, we have an international midget series EVERY year at Western Springs with top USA & Australian drivers competing. The world champs are held while they are here. In recent years the US team has had 6 drivers here. This dates back to around 1964 or 65 when they started regularly.
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